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Topic: need input - who's using mac os x? (Read 888 times) |
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fry
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need input - who's using mac os x?
« on: Jul 23rd, 2003, 4:45pm » |
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hey macosx people,
have you been using recent p5 releases? are you using java 1.4? does it suck?
1.4 seems all but broken on my ibook, but i've only received one complaint so far that things are broken. this means:
1) people are downloading it for osx, finding it broken, and giving up (or using the os9 vesion?)
2) it's only certain video cards/setups (i.e. my ibook) that have lots of trouble (though turning off hardware acceleration doesn't seem to help).
3) that the uber-techies who are signing up for alpha see the problem immediately see the issue and quietly set the app to just use the 1.3 vm instead.
so what's the deal, folks? i'm inclined to set the mac back to 1.3, but i don't want to make the wheel mouse lovers sad, if their platform isn't broken. then again, i'd like to get rid of 1.3 altogether, and support just 1.4 across the board (and 1.1 on macos9.. grumble grumble).
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mrb
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Re: need input - who's using mac os x?
« Reply #1 on: Jul 23rd, 2003, 5:16pm » |
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ben:
i used processing 55 regularly on my 12" powerbook g4 running os x 10.2.5 with the java 1.4.1 vm with no problems at all. what are the problems people are experiencing? i could run and test things i have written on 56 if this would be helpful for testing purposes.
mrb
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mohn
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Re: need input - who's using mac os x?
« Reply #2 on: Jul 23rd, 2003, 5:26pm » |
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ben -
been running rev56 with this version of java:
java version "1.4.1_01"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.1_01-39)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.1_01-14, mixed mode)
i've been using p5 roughly every day on my TiPowerbook for the past month with no issues (except for the minor things i mentioned to you last month).
is p5 not even starting up for you? or just bonking out mid-use? what was reported as broken?
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skloopy
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Re: need input - who's using mac os x?
« Reply #3 on: Jul 23rd, 2003, 6:28pm » |
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I'm using P5 on OS X now.. The only problems i've noticed are that it's a lot slower than P5 on OS 9 (this is Java in general i'm guessing) and just a few minor interface things like 1 pixel row of white below the text spillout, and the scrollbar updates slowly when dragging it. I didn't say anything about those because it's nitpicky stuff.
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flight404
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Re: need input - who's using mac os x?
« Reply #4 on: Jul 23rd, 2003, 7:46pm » |
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Use v56 on OSX (10.2.6) and it seems fine. Seems nearly as stable as it does on my PC. Though I have not been able to get the mouse wheel to do anything at all.
java version "1.4.1_01"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.1_01-39)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.1_01-14, mixed mode)
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fry
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Re: need input - who's using mac os x?
« Reply #5 on: Jul 23rd, 2003, 9:05pm » |
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wow, that's interesting.
on my machine (12" ibook, 10.2.6, accelerated gfx though can't remember the chipset offhand) it spews exceptions (mostly awt stuff) and does lots of freezing and hanging. sometimes mangles parts of the screen or doesn't update certain regions.
well, that's good news at any rate. i wonder what the deal is, since i just got an email about similar issues to mine. i'll follow up with the person.
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fry
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Re: need input - who's using mac os x?
« Reply #6 on: Jul 30th, 2003, 3:09pm » |
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after looking into it a little further, i now recall that java 1.3 is used by default with p5, even if java 1.4 is installed. the processing app doesn't include the proper info.plist file to say that it's "1.4 ready" so it just runs with 1.3.
however, 1) if you've changed that setting, or 2) your wheel mouse somehow works then you're probably using the 1.4 vm.
you can test with the following:
println(System.getProperty("java.vm.version"));
so that said, is there anyone who's using the 1.4 vm, and how has it been behaving? i've been sorting out a lot of 1.4-specific issues for 57 (everything from changed default fonts to threading issues) so we're already improved from 56, but there's still a ways to go.
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tripdragon
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Re: need input - who's using mac os x?
« Reply #7 on: Sep 24th, 2003, 3:36am » |
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i to am getting that 1.3 print out. how do you change it to use java 1.4.1
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mohn
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Re: need input - who's using mac os x?
« Reply #8 on: Sep 24th, 2003, 5:25am » |
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on Sep 24th, 2003, 3:36am, tripdragon wrote:| i to am getting that 1.3 print out. how do you change it to use java 1.4.1 |
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from the readme.txt, under OS X section:
(actually this paragraph is only relevant if you want to try java 1.4,
since we wound up using 1.3 as the default for release _58_ )
if you're having random troubles (exceptions being thrown,
screen painting weirdness, general confusion) you might want to
try running processing with java 1.3.1 instead of java 1.4. to do so,
right-click or control-click the processing application and select
"Show Package Contents". go to Contents -> Resources -> and then
open MRJApp.properties in a text editor. remove the # from this line:
com.apple.mrj.application.JVMVersion=1.3.1
and add a # in front of this line:
com.apple.mrj.application.JVMVersion=1.3+
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of course, you'll want to do the opposite when commenting. from my MRJApp.properties (you want yours to look like this):
# enable java 1.3 and higher, meaning that java 1.4
# will be used if it's installed.
com.apple.mrj.application.JVMVersion=1.3+
# if you're having trouble, add a # to the line above
# and remove the # from the following line:
#com.apple.mrj.application.JVMVersion=1.3.1
# this will revert back to java 1.3, since 1.4 has some issues
keep in mind: 1.3+ is a dangerous expedition at times ....
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