Hi
A newcomer to the processing world, have just finished the near perfect Processing book by Fry and Reas.

Can someone tell me the relationship between openFrameworks http://www.openframeworks.cc/

and Processing?
Does openFrameworks use Processing or?

a side note, I know this has been discussed elsewhere, but this forum is extremely slow, to the detriment of the processing community...I rarely post to or view this forum for that reason...hard to believe that this can't be fixed

Both Processing and openFrameworks were created as free, open source projects for artists and designers. Processing is built around Java and openFrameworks is built around C++. Both environments can do many of the same things. Java allows Processing applets to be viewed over the web, but makes applications often slower than those written in openFrameworks. Processing has a stronger emphasis on learning to program. Ben and I are good friends with Zach, one of the two openFrameworks creators. I've watched the project grow over the years; I think it's wonderful.

I don't use openFrameworks for my own work because I prefer the speed and ease that I can work in Processing. Ben and I made Processing because we didn't want to write C++ code; we had been doing that for years.