Hey All,
 We are using processing to teach several courses here in Berlin and we definitely aren't the only Deutsch speakers at it.  I've run into quite a few people who are using it for all sorts of pedagogy and non-pedagogical projects.  
 Anyway, our students find all sorts of useful tips here in english but obviously it's more comfortable to read and write in your native tongue especially when you're tearing your hair out trying to learn coding basics.
 So... what about creating another forum for german speakers (and maybe even other languages if there's an audience)?  We could set up our own phpbb or whatever somewhere else but it seems to make more sense to have something here as part of the main community..  I don't think you need to duplicate the whole tree, just make a new toplevel forum.  What do you say?

later hosen!

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and non german users may loose helpful information...

(anyway, I think that nothing prevents you from creating a local processing forum somewhere)

Sure, in an ideal world, we'd all speak esperanto or lojban.  In an ideal world, my students would all have paid attention in english class in the Gymnasium (not to mention math) and "The Simpsons" would have subtitles and not be dubbed on German TV.  

But it's not a perfect world and a lot my students have a hard time with english, especially when it involves a lot of technical jargon.  Outside of academia, there are quite a few german speakers who don't have an Abitur who won't bother to learn processing because there's little written in german to help them get started and that's unfortunate.  Having forums (and docs) in other languages would make processing more accessible, not less.

As an american living in Germany, I appreciate that I can occasionally speak english when I get into a tough spot.  Why shouldn't young designers getting started with software be afforded the same sort of help?

I can certainly setup a forum somewhere else but I thought it might be better to try to keep the discourse in one place, rather than fragmenting the community.  I imagine much of the discussion in the german forums will consist of links to conversations that have already taken place here in english.  

I guess the best argument I can come up with is one of demand.  105 million (+80 million non-native) speakers can't be wrong.

I totally understand the benefit of having forum sections in other languages. Using the Arduino forum as an example, the Spanish language threads flourished (I'm not sure about the current use).

But if we make a German thread, then we should make a Chinese thread, then a Turkish thread, etc. Because a number of native German speakers have advised against it here, and for the reason mentioned above, I'm not inclined to modify the forum as of now.

We are working again on translating the reference to other languages. I hope it will be resolved and it will be useful.

from my experience only one or two of my students make it to asking questions here, the rest is either silently looking for solutions or just never come here. i hope a german forum will make more of them start asking ... and after a while answering questions! so yes, please let us know once it's online.

oh, and say hi to till!

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