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carlb

Audio driven patterns - processing to rhino
Jul 18^th, 2009, 8:46am

Dear all,

Firstly, Im new to processing; any programming really.

Currently im working on a project which i would like to run through the experts to hopefully be getting some advice on how to proceed.

What im looking at is to develop geometrical patterns and tiles from sampled audio waves. The research is carried out from an acoustic perspective where im looking to sample existing spaces and translate the noise levels to then create unique, 3D acoustic panels.

So, the question is: what would be the best approach to this? a friend told me using processing innitially and then bring the coding into rhino via script... this to me seems to be a to complicated process, and as im not experienced in programming, a time-consuming process. I have heard of grasshopper, a plugin for rhino which does not involve any programming at all, more a visual approach it seems - this does appeal to me, but as i understand it it can not 'translate' the recorded audio wave. What would be the best approach?

Any help very much appreciated,

Thanks
C

PhiLho YaBB Moderator Offline Posts: 4190 Near Paris (France)	Re: Audio driven patterns - processing to rhino Reply #1 - Jul 18^th, 2009, 9:30am What is Rhino? I know the Java-based JavaScript engine from Mozilla, but I doubt it is this one.

blindfish

Re: Audio driven patterns - processing to rhino
Reply #2 - Jul 20^th, 2009, 3:04pm

Maybe he means Rhino the NURBS based 3D modelling application In which case I suppose he'd need to convert any 3D shape generated in Processing into a format supported by Rhino. Sounds fiddly to me... though maybe not if the DXF export library will do the trick; though I get the impression that DXF isn't quite as 'standard' as it could be.

Where is the what if the what is in why?

gll

Re: Audio driven patterns - processing to rhino
Reply #3 - Jul 20^th, 2009, 4:09pm

Rhino is an animal... But Rhino was also a good squat in Geneva. I went too late... It was just closed the week before I came to Geneva.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhino (Wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RHINO_(squat)

But, yes, for 3D, Rhino is a software for NURBS that support apprently DXF (http://en.wiki.mcneel.com/default.aspx/McNeel/DwgIo.html). If you are looking for exporting something for a 3D software, DXF lib is a good starting point.

Converting a 3D wave into architecture is something that have been done in the early years of architecture with computers (transarchitecture), the great discovery of extended CAD capabilities. Marcos Novak did something similar, a transposition of an audio wave for a neighborhood near of a highway. I'm sure you could do better than his project. ( Embarrassed

Sorry M. Novak, In my sense you did far better projects than this one...). My main critic with this project was the literal transposition of the audio information (on a from a wave) to legitimate sculptural free forms. I think that it could be more subttle at least in the audio interpretation|transformation.

That said, I'm sure that better could be done and I would love to see your project.

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I think your friend is right regarding rhino script. You'll get a better geometry if you work with .rvb directly. This how I usually work when I need a better geometric information. Grasshopper looks nice, but you'll run into problems when your geometric information gets more complex. Do you really need the visual programming interface? Remember that easy things with processing like loops, conditional, becomes really more difficult when you work with Visual Programming.

DXF exporter is easier, but you'll get raw geometric information (triangles), a poorly editable scene. Maybe, it's just fine with your project. DXF is usually supported in many software, you might try .OBJ export id DXF is not supported. (http://labelle.spacekit.ca/supercad)

« Last Edit: Jul 21^st, 2009, 6:28am by gll »

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Cedric YaBB Moderator Offline Posts: 1838	Re: Audio driven patterns - processing to rhino Reply #4 - Jul 21^st, 2009, 12:46am What do you mean by Panels? do you want complex geometry or something that really is a Panel that would look like this work by Casey for example: http://reas.com/p18_objects1_p/reas_p18_objects1_p_3.jpg ?
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