i did a search but was surprised no one has asked about javafx here yet. is it a no no thing to bring up? do we like javafx, or is it just to new to comment on at this time?

is processing just way better, whats javafx missing do we think? i maybe able to prod them...

aNt wrote on Nov 20^th, 2007, 12:43pm:

Or, since the IP from which you posted that message is from inside sun.com (and quick googling confirms that you're working there), you could instead say "Hi, I'm at Sun working on JavaFX, what do you guys think about it" Why troll by not stating that up front That really bums me out.

Having had a quick look at the first couple of hits in google my first impression is "euwww" it's aimed far too much at sales/marketing buzzword-o-philes and there's no information about what it's actually like for someone who actually wants to use it, just for people who're likely to tell other people to use it because it sounds good.

Moving on to openjfx: the first demo is about tabels and databases... erm, a completely different target audience it seems than what processing is aimed towards.

So basically it looks like jfx is for java people who want to make shiny interfaces, and processing is a digital arts tools.. so completely unrelated software.

you can just do 'Java' inside JavaFx because its compiled at the end of the day. you MAYBE able to call the JavaFx scene-graph and api's from Java as well (MAYBE).

I'm looking over media support next week. Just thought I'd ask if there was anything you would like me to request- my list is long, but I'm more then happy to make it longer.

low latency audio is on there, along with video.

My take on JavaFX is that it could be interesting, but only if people actually get it installed on a wide scale and it works a whole lot better than the applet plugins have for the past ten years (which, to be fair, is finally fixed with 6uN, better late than never!).  I'd pretty much need to see a bug free release right out of the gate to really consider it seriously as a platform - though they do a lot of great stuff, and I love the Java language, Sun has a track record of letting all sorts of user-facing bugs and RFE's fester for years as long as they don't impact enterprise, so my assumption is generally going to be that if it doesn't work in the first version, it's not going to be made to work unless the entire thing is rewritten and rebranded.

Actually, that probably sums up my view of JavaFX more than anything else - it's Sun's promise to deliver all the goodies that they gave up trying to do right in applets.  So while I'm interested, I'm reserving judgement until I see some actual results...

Hi, I am not really interested in JavaFX, but I am *extremely* interested in the Java Media Components (JMC) library. From my limited testing over that last two days it seems to work very well (for playback) on windows and mac os x (even on 64-bit macs with java 6). However, there is hardly any documentation about it, and also it seems that they want people to use the JMC library *only*  through JavaFX.

So, for now, it is not really usable. But at some point hopefully in the near future we will be able to use it and have a true cross-platform video solution. And also it doesn't look like there is any way you can actually grab the bytes from the video.

It would be nice to be able to stop using JMF and QT4Java and other outdated/hack-y ways of playing with video.

So, if anyone is listening at Sun (or if aNt can do some prodding...) I vote for releasing/documenting JMC independently of JavaFX and adding methods so that we have full control of the media! Also I think if the JMC library is really exceptional and available outside of JavaFX then it might give people a valid reason to check JavaFX out. From following the 1.0 launch I don't see any reason at all to use JavaFX at the moment, and as you can probably guess I was disappointed about JMC not being usable for anything other than playback.

-sj