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« on: Jul 19th, 2003, 12:34am »

finally relaunched flight404.com.  flash shell but all the goodies are processing made.  most all the projects up now are cleaned up versions of the stuff I have already posted here.
 
www.flight404.com
 
v3ga

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« Reply #1 on: Jul 19th, 2003, 10:37am »

Truly beautiful !
 

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scrap-pile

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« Reply #2 on: Jul 19th, 2003, 6:37pm »

nice work.
 
arielm

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« Reply #3 on: Jul 20th, 2003, 9:58am »

together with a long list of superlatives, i feel about flight404 new site like it's marking the start of a new era!
 

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« Reply #4 on: Jul 20th, 2003, 5:56pm »

Thanks all.  I appreciate the kind words.  (Good to see you here, scrap-pile.  Looking forward to seeing what you come up with).
 
I do have a question for the gang.
 
My knowledge of Java with different platforms is rather base.  I know that on Safari OSX, sometimes the browser crashes after closing a popup containing an applet.  I have heard from others that Processing projects occasionally crashes their XP box.  So, in regards to flight404, I want to put up a tech note that specifies the possibility of browsers closing unexpectedly or machines freezing up.  But I don't want to blame it on Processing's 'alpha' status without being sure.
 
Is it a Java and OSX problem?  Is Java unstable in general?  Is Processing more stable on IE than Netscape-based browsers?  Any info would be great and I will add it to the tech note.
 
Thanks again.
 
depth

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« Reply #5 on: Jul 20th, 2003, 8:21pm »

gorgeous work.  the webcam stuff 3d is right on - curious to hear the sound input on the sonic one.
 
unfortunately, i can't answer your applet questions...i did have a problem in IE6 in windows with the quicktime movie for "warp", tho - i closed the video window and my browser froze when i tried to reopen it.
 
keep em coming.
 
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« Reply #6 on: Jul 20th, 2003, 8:30pm »

That site is truly beautiful. My mouth even drops when I don't watch the applets and movies.
 
Koenie
 

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« Reply #7 on: Jul 21st, 2003, 2:18am »

I agree with arielm - it's a great big bucket of inspiration, wrapped in a blanket of brilliance.
 
flight404

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« Reply #8 on: Jul 21st, 2003, 3:16am »

 
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« Reply #9 on: Jul 21st, 2003, 12:59pm »

Some great stuff there, it's interesting how you finished off some of the stuff you posted as works in progress here. Well done.
 
I had a few problems with your site though FYI.
 
In IE 5 on the PC, the frame doesn't work properly so all you get is a blank screen. I had to view the source to get to main.html, I'm not sure why you need frames at all actually, but that's your decision.
 
Even if you have your screen at full brightness & contrast (which most people don't) the text is tough to read, and I've got good eyesight.
 
Similary, the text is too small aswell. I know some designers like crazily small text, but it's a bad sign when you have to learn forward to the screen to read the text on a site.
 
Anyways, great stuff, keep it up & look forward to more stuff in future.
 
flight404

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« Reply #10 on: Jul 21st, 2003, 6:08pm »

Thanks all.
 
Thank you p.  i agree with 95% of what you say and for the other 5%, I don't have a copy of IE5 for PC (just IE6) so I was not able to notice that bug.  The only reason I use frames is to center the site vertically and horizontally within the browser window.  It is how the last two versions of flight404 were coded.  I am surprised that all IE5 PC users would have this problem because I never heard this comment from anyone else in the past.
 
Any thoughts on this matter?  
 
As for the pixel fonts, my love hate relationship with them is shifting to hate.  I find myself squinting at them as well (always just assumed it was because I am set to 1600x1200).  Thinking about changing it.
 
And thanks for the heads-up about the darkness.  I keep forgetting PC monitors generally render darker than Macs.
 
Great feedback.
 
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« Reply #11 on: Jul 21st, 2003, 7:33pm »

hey robert,
 
i pretty much agree with the things others said about your beautiful site. it's a great showcase & new milestone of your own work as much as it is a great show off of processing's features. well done!!
 
re: centering the shell on the page, you can achieve the same without frames like this:
Code:

<table width="100%" height="95%">
<tr><td align="center">
  <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
    <tr><td>
  <!-- centered content goes here --->
  <object....>
    </td></tr>
  </table>
</td></tr>
</table>

 
l8rs all!
 

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arielm

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« Reply #12 on: Jul 21st, 2003, 7:45pm »

on Jul 21st, 2003, 6:08pm, flight404 wrote:
The only reason I use frames is to center the site vertically and horizontally within the browser window

the following should solve the problem on any browser, no
 
Code:

<table width="100%" height="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr>
<td align="center">YOUR CENTERED CONTENT HERE</td>
</tr></table>

(in addition, you BODY's margin should be zeroed)
 
 
+ my personal feedback corner: as far as i remember, there's a place in your new site where you put proce55ing.net url but it's not functionning as link (and because all is written so little, it's easily possible to interprete the two fives as to s's)
 
btw, if i would have to turn this one into a link, i wouldn't use a popup window, but instead a direct link (and also try to "kill" the existing popups) because with one flash bg + one or more applets running at the same time, things could be terribly slowed...
 
--- added later ---
 
toxi, we probably composed our message at the same time! this is what i call a quantum parallel universe posting incident
« Last Edit: Jul 21st, 2003, 7:47pm by arielm »  

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« Reply #13 on: Jul 21st, 2003, 8:05pm »

Rock.  The frame set is gone... history... nada!!!
 
As for the processing link, I believe it is now a button. I shall double check.
 
Right now, all the applets are set to go to the same window so it should not ever produce two.  I will look into the window killing.  Is there a generic way to say "If I am not focused, kill me" in regards to the popup applet windows?
 
Thanks for all the great feedback.  As you can see, I never really took the time to learn HTML and Javascript so this help is invaluable.
 
r
 
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« Reply #14 on: Jul 21st, 2003, 11:23pm »

yeah, html and javascript are useful guys...
 
second thought on the-popup killing concept (and instead of your "if i'm not focused, kill me"): you could just open any new content (popups with java, links to other sites, etc) into the very same window.
 
i've made the following test-case for ya:
http://www.chronotext.org/processing/poppy404
 
tested successfully on: win ie5, ie5.5, ie6 and win moz 1.0 & ns6.2 (wonder how about mac ie)...
 

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